Why It’s Time We Started Listening To The People Who Claim They’ve Met The Pilots

Written by UAP Files - Jimmy

Over the last few years, I’ve interviewed everyone from military witnesses and intelligence officials to scientists, journalists, politicians and filmmakers. I’ve spent countless hours discussing crashed craft, radar tracks, whistleblowers, reverse-engineering programmes and government secrecy.

Yet there’s one area of the UFO subject I’ve largely avoided.

Not because I thought the people involved were lying. Not because I thought they were crazy. And certainly not because I thought the topic wasn’t important.

The truth is, I never quite knew how to approach it.

The experiencer phenomenon — what many people still call alien abductions — has always felt like the deepest end of the pool. It’s the part of the subject that can make even people who are comfortable discussing UFOs suddenly feel awkward. It’s intensely personal, often traumatic, and if we’re honest, it’s dark. Really dark.

When I first started UAP Files and the associated UAP Files Podcast, I made a conscious decision to focus on areas that I felt could bring people into the conversation. Military encounters. Government investigations. Sensor data. Pilot testimony. The sort of material that allows someone who has never thought seriously about UFOs to engage without feeling they’ve wandered into the deep end before they’ve learned to swim. Those kinds of interviews that de-stigmatise because these people are serious credible folks, often in a position to know the things they claim and a ton to lose for making it all up.

But over time I’ve found myself asking a question that has become increasingly difficult to ignore.

If we accept that there are credible military witnesses seeing extraordinary craft...

If we are willing to entertain claims of reverse-engineering programmes...

If we are seriously discussing consciousness, telepathy, non-local awareness, remote viewing and CE5...

Then why aren’t we talking to the people who claim to have met the occupants?

Why are we endlessly discussing the vehicles while ignoring the pilots?

Whether you believe every experiencer account or none of them is almost beside the point. The question isn’t whether every story is true. The question is whether this group of people deserves to be heard.

That’s partly why I was keen to sit down once again with award-winning filmmaker Dean Alioto.

Dean Alioto (Filmmaker)

This was our third conversation together. Previously we discussed The Alien Perspective and The Alien Perspective 2, two films that stood out because Dean approached the UFO subject differently from most filmmakers. Rather than recycling familiar talking points or simply presenting a parade of talking heads, he seemed more interested in exploring the human side of the mystery. And rather uniquely, the perspective of the Non-Human Intelligence (NHI).

His latest film, The Experiencers: Full Disclosure, takes that idea even further.

Over the course of several years, 67 interviews and multiple countries, Dean immersed himself in the experiencer community. The result isn’t a sensationalist documentary designed to shock people. Quite the opposite. It’s an attempt to understand what happens when ordinary people report extraordinary encounters and then spend years trying to make sense of them.

What struck me during our conversation wasn’t that Dean was asking viewers to believe every account.

It was that he was asking us to listen. Interestingly, that’s the same message Steven Spielberg left us with in his latest film Disclosure Day.

One point Dean made stayed with me long after the cameras stopped rolling.

For years, public hearings, documentaries and news reports have focused on the craft. We analyse flight characteristics. We debate propulsion systems. We discuss materials science. We speculate about where these things come from.

Meanwhile, there are people claiming direct interaction with whatever is behind the phenomenon, the pilots, and they are often dismissed before they’ve even spoken.

As Dean put it, perhaps we’ve been studying the elephant’s tail while ignoring the elephant in the room.

Now, I’m not suggesting we abandon critical thinking. Quite the opposite. Skepticism remains important. Evidence remains important.

But I’ve also reached the point where I think completely ignoring experiencers is no longer a serious position.

At the very least, these are people reporting life-changing events. Many describe genuine trauma. Many have struggled to tell friends, family members or even therapists what happened to them. Others say the experience ultimately became positive, transformative even, despite initially being terrifying.

Whatever the explanation turns out to be, there is clearly something worth examining.

Maybe that’s why we’re seeing more conversations about this subject now than ever before. Maybe that’s why filmmakers like Dean Alioto are dedicating years of their lives to it. Maybe that’s why even people who once kept their distance from this aspect of the phenomenon are beginning to look a little closer.

Including me.

You don’t have to agree with everything discussed in this interview. In fact, I’d be surprised if anyone did.

But if we’re genuinely interested in understanding the UFO mystery in its entirety, then perhaps it’s time we stopped treating experiencers as an awkward footnote and started listening to what they have to say.

The Experiencers: Full Disclosure is available now on Amazon and Apple.

Watch my full conversation with Dean Alioto and watch the trailer below:

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